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From: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
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Subject: Re: rfc: rewrite commit subject line for subsystem maintainer
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preference tool
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:07:37 +0100
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Message-ID: <20101117220737.2d3d7356@stein>
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References: <20101116104921.GL12986@rakim.wolfsonmicro.main>
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<1289919077.28741.50.camel@Joe-Laptop>
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<20101116183707.179964dd@schatten.dmk.lab>
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<20101116181226.GB26239@rakim.wolfsonmicro.main>
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<20101116203522.65240b18@schatten.dmk.lab>
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<20101116195530.GA7523@rakim.wolfsonmicro.main>
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<20101116122102.86e7e0b9.rdunlap@xenotime.net>
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<20101116230126.GB24623@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
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<20101117014427.41d85b13@stein>
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<alpine.LNX.2.00.1011170150060.7420@pobox.suse.cz>
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<20101117170746.GB19488@rakim.wolfsonmicro.main>
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Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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Cc: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
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Florian Mickler <florian@mickler.org>,
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Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
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Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
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To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
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X-From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Wed Nov 17 22:08:15 2010
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Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:07:55 -0500
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Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:07:39 +0100
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In-Reply-To: <20101117170746.GB19488@rakim.wolfsonmicro.main>
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Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1064128>
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On Nov 17 Mark Brown wrote:
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> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 01:53:35AM +0100, Jiri Kosina wrote:
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> > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Stefan Richter wrote:
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> > > Why should we codify our conventions in MAINTAINERS to accommodate the
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> > > specific problem of virtually a _single_ patch author?
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>
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> It seems to be the way we're heading in general - look at all the recent
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> work on MAINTAINERS and get_maintainer.pl. There seems to be a genral
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> push to make all this stuff automatable.
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get_maintainer.pl, used with judgment and together with "gitk
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the/patched/source.c" is nice not only for people like Joe who
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regularly work tree-wide but also for ones like me who only rarely want
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to submit a bug report or patch for a subsystem with they are
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unfamiliar with.
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But the thought of a database of "how to start a good patch title" is
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far-fetched. Really, as a patch author, just look how other people
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write patch titles and judge whether this is good for your work too or
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not.
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> > Either the maintainer wants the patch. Then he is certainly able to apply
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> > it no matter the subject line (I personally am getting a lot of patches
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> > which don't follow the format I am using in my tree ... converting
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> > Subject: lines is so trivial that I have never felt like bothering anyone
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> > about it ... it's basically single condition in a shellscript). Or the
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> It's slightly more than that if you're dealing with more than one area,
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> and I also find this sort of stuff is a good flag for scrubbing the
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> patch in greater detail - when patches stand out from a 1000ft visual
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> overview there's a fair chance that there's other issues so if people
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> regularly submit good patches that have only cosmetic issues I find it's
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> worth guiding them away from that.
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On one hand Jiri is right that maintainers can adjust title prefixes ad
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hoc. (Downside: Weaker connection to mailinglist archives.) On the
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other hand, in the case of long-term prolific authors like Joe it is
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more optimal if there is a good patch title right from the outset.
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So, if this boring thread does at least yield the conclusion that
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${path}/${filename}: is a bad title prefix, at least something was
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won. :-)
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Another thought: Whether a typical part of a mass conversion, e.g. to
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use a new helper macro without change of functionality, is named
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[PATCH] [subsystem] driver: use foo_bar helper
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or
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[PATCH] use foo_bar helper in subsystem, driver
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does not really matter, does it? This change is more about the helper
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than about the driver. It is really a different kind of changeset than
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a functional change that we want to be called
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[PATCH] [subsystem] driver: fix crash at disconnection
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or so. This is something that those who look for release notes of
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that driver or subsystem want to grep in the changelog.
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Or in other words: If you as patch author wonder what would be a good
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title for your patch, then ask yourself: How should this change show up
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in kernel release notes that are constructed from the git shortlog?
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Sometimes the answer to this question includes among else a prefix with
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a canonical subsystem name (even case sensitive, with brackets or
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colon), whereas other times such formalities are utterly pointless.
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[Sorry for the spent electrons. But OTOH, issues like (1.) optimum
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use of reviewer bandwidth, (2.) kernel changelog alias release
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notes /do/ matter.]
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--
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Stefan Richter
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